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whtigers
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I work with a guy who is a Cards fan, he is always running his mouth and putting down the Cubs. Even if the Cubs finish ahead of them he will still put them down. No one on the Cubs could even make the Cards is one of him favorite lines. To me the Card fans cross the line of reality and go past it to blind hatred. I truely hope that as Cubs fans we can always apreciate good base ball and keep prespective. It is a good year when the Cards are looking up at the Cubs. Go Cubbies.

Dave
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Yeah the Cardinals are really bad this year. I hope the Cubs can hold them off- I can't stand the the Cards either. Good win tonight vs. the Brewers- need to hold them off too.

whtigers
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Astros claim series win over Cardinals

Albers has quality outing, Berkman goes deep in win

By Jim Carley / MLB.com

HOUSTON -- Don't let his modest record and even more modest ERA fool you. Matt Albers has "stuff."

Just ask the St. Louis Cardinals. The Astros rookie handcuffed the Cardinals for the second time this year, this time leading the Astros to a 2-1 getaway-day victory on Thursday afternoon.

It was Houston's first series under interim manager Cecil Cooper, who replaced the fired Phil Garner last Monday, and the Astros won it 2-1. And Cooper was Albers' biggest fan on Thursday.

"He was awfully good," Cooper said. "Matty's growing up a little bit. He's shown he can be a big league pitcher. I'm very proud of him."

The 24-year-old right-hander shut the Cards out for 7 1/3 innings in a 13-0 win on May 5, limiting them to three hits and a walk that time. Thursday, he went seven innings and again gave up only three hits while walking four and striking out three to improve to 4-6 with a 5.36 ERA.

"Matt did a fantastic job," closer Brad Lidge said after notching his 14th save. "He threw a lot of strikes and went right at them.

"He's got great stuff. When he has control, he is really tough."

Ditto from Lance Berkman, whose home run provided the winning margin in the fourth inning Thursday.

"He was great," Berkman said of Albers. "He has got as good a stuff as any young right-hander in the league. When he locates his pitches, he can really be impressive.

"I think he can be a Top 3 in the rotation type of pitcher. He can be really good."

The Cardinals were certainly impressed.

"You don't look at him as somebody, with his ERA especially, as a guy who would shut us down like that," Cardinals second baseman Aaron Miles. "But he's a big league pitcher and he shut us down today.

"He has a big league curveball and he knows how to use it. Our bats were pretty much quiet. He's got pretty good stuff but we really didn't swing the bats that well today."

Albers, from nearby Sugar Land, knows he has come a long way since being taken by Houston in the 23rd round of the 2001 First-Year Player Draft.

"I felt pretty good today," he said. "I was getting my fastball down in the zone and was mixing in my curve the way I wanted to. Everything went pretty well.

"This is one of my better outings. I'm starting to feel more comfortable on the mound. I'm trying to just trust my stuff and not trying to make my pitches too good every time."

Houston took a 1-0 lead in the second on an RBI double by Luke Scott.

After St. Louis tied it in the third, Berkman hit his 26th home run of the season to give the Astros a 2-1 lead.

It's still early, but Cooper thinks the team might be starting to respond to him.

"I've been hearing a lot of good things in the dugout," Cooper said. "I can feel some vibes down there in the dugout. In the eighth inning [when Houston loaded the bases], people were getting excited and that's not something we've done a lot of before.

"We're just a little bit more excited now and I hope it's going to be contagious."

Lidge thinks it will be.

"Obviously we believe in Coop," Lidge said. "A lot of players are responding to him now I think. We're going to be busting our butts the rest of the way to try and finish strong and get him off to a good start"

Berkman agrees.

"Coop does a tremendous job," Berkman said. "He's always been a man of dignity who commands respect. The way he has come in and established his own style has been impressive. I'm excited to see how he's going to do the rest of the way."

Jim Carley is an associate reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.j ... p;c_id=mlb

#1cubfan
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I just love this at this time of year. The Cardnals are almost as bad as the Yankess. They get everyone that they want. Maybe Cuban will by the Cubs.

sorianosthebest
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I hope the Cardinals choke on it

whtigers
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I don't hate the cardinals as much as I dislike their arrogant fans. The team is like the Yankees but don't spend that kind of money. But they always seem to get the players they want.

#1cubfan
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Ya, the Cards fans I know think they are better than everyone else. It drives me crazy. Any year we finish ahead of them is a good year. I don't ask much.

sorianosthebest
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There's a kid in my class that always wears Cardinals stull, but I got a Cubs notebook. It's cool.

whtigers
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I thought I would throw this in because the red bird lost again today. Plus I really want the Cubs to win but a long as it is not the Cardinalls I'm ok.

Champs to Chumps: the St Louis Cardinals

After winning the World Series last year, the Redbirds are finding out how the other half live

David LengelMay 17, 2007 12:25 PM

The St Louis Cardinals may be the World Series champions, but boy do they suck. I used similar language while predicting their downfall in the season preview and, for once, it seems that a forecast is coming true. Languishing in fifth place in their old stomping ground, the National League Central Division, they could become one of the worst teams among clubs that won a World Series title the previous season.

Without access to the super computers over at the Elias Sports Bureau, the place where obscure statistics are born and which nearly every recorded digit in baseball history calls home, I've discovered that the Cards could become the most awful champs since their fellow mid-westerners, the Cincinnati Reds, followed up their 1990 title with an ugly fifth-place finish (74-88) in the old NL West. Before you say, 'hey, what about the 1998 Florida Marlins', I'm throwing them out of the mix as their infamous and unique fire sale takes them out of any reasonable comparisons. For the record, the '98 Marlins finished 54-108. Either way, this is not a distinction those St Louis fans will be proud of, but it makes sense that their 2007 season is shaping up the way it is when you consider that they were one of the worst teams in baseball history to win it all in October.

The Cardinals have been a dominating force in the NL Central for some time. Tony LaRussa became manager in 1996 and almost immediately turned around a franchise that had a great history of success but had been dormant for several years. The club won a World Series title in 1982 and three NL titles under skipper Whitey Herzog before spiraling downward. Joe Torre followed in 1991 - back when he was "Clueless Joe", not the winner of four rings with the Yankees - and guided the Redbirds through a mediocre period not in keeping with their legacy. In LaRussa's first 10 seasons, he won six division tiles, finished with over 90 victories on five occasions, and took an NL pennant. The problem was his failure to win a World Series, a major reason the city maintained their love affair with the colourful Herzog, and never fully warmed to Tony.

The 2006 season didn't look promising, at least not after July 26. Before that date, the team was sitting pretty at 58-42, five-and-a-half games up on the Chicago Cubs, cruising along on top of the NL Central. After that, the Cardinals nosedived, finishing the season 25-41, barely managing to hold off a surging Houston Astros club that was eight-and-a-half games out of first place on September 19 - hardly the best way to head into the playoffs.

But the Cardinals somehow figured out a way to win their 10th World Series title and get that monkey off LaRussa's back, beating the Detroit Tigers four games to one. How they did it I will never know - I guess it's one of those "catching lightning in a bottle" moments in sports where the underdog comes out of nowhere to win it all. Beating the New York Mets, a team clearly superior to the Cards, was by far their greatest achievement. But while I like a good underdog story as much as anyone, I don't like it when bad teams win the World Series, and these Redbirds were awful.

One thing about baseball is that that, in the long-term, you can't maintain something that isn't supposed to be happening. The team was already aging, poorly stocked, and without one of their top pitchers, Mark Mulder, who has been out with a rotator-cuff injury since last June. Then they lost their NL Championship Series Most Valuable Player, Jeff Suppan, a steady innings eater who signed with the Milwaukee Brewers, and the bizarrely resurgent Jeff Weaver, who was acquired late last season and boosted the Cards in the playoffs.

To fill the pitching gap they experimented, sending their closer, Adam Wainwright, and set-up man, Braden Looper, from the bullpen to the starting rotation. It has worked out well for Looper, who had been getting kicked around as a reliever for some time, while Wainwright has been much less successful. Obviously the team has been greatly affected by the death of reliever Josh Hancock, but the biggest hit of all has been losing their former Cy Young award-winner and ace Chris Carpenter, who is out for three months following surgery on his right elbow. The Cards made a large investment - five years and $65m - in the oft-injured hurler, and dividends could be a long way off. Kip Wells was signed in the off-season - nothing like a 1-7 record and a 6.51 ERA to stop the bleeding. They could probably use Jason Marquis at the moment: the former Cardinal, who had frequent run-ins with the manager, left for Chicago where he's 5-1 with the Cubs.

Jason Isringhausen is back in his role of closer after yet another extended period on the trainer's table, but how much can he help if the team can't score - and, boy, can that offense not score? Jim Edmonds and Scott Rolen are flirting with sub-.200 batting averages, and Preston Wilson, who once upon a time was a decent player, should not be allowed past the dugout - really, he is that bad. David Eckstein was the 2006 World Series MVP, but this year he is playing less like a pesky superhero and much more like a small, overmatched batter. Aaron Miles, So Taguchi, Scott Spiezio - none of these guys are hitting and the farm system is not churning out replacements. Banking on the return of Juan Encarnacion from injury to provide an offensive boost is not a good sign; nor does it help that the great Albert Pujols also struggled at the start of this season.

Can anyone believe that just seven months ago this team won a World Series title? I find it amazing, one of the great oddities in the history of baseball. The only thing that could top it is if somehow these Cardinals manage to avoid losing over 90 games this season.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/ ... louis.html

whtigers
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Reds complete sweep of Cards

By Joe Kay

The Associated Press

September 13, 2007, 2:28 PM CDT

CINCINNATI -- Joey Votto hit a two-run double and David Ross followed with a two-run homer Thursday, sending the Cincinnati Reds to a 5-4 victory that completed the St. Louis Cardinals' road trip to ruin.

The Cardinals lost all seven games on their trip, capped by their first three-game sweep in Cincinnati since July 1998. It's their first winless trip of at least seven games since May 1972, when they went 0-7 in Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.

It's a bad time to be making historical references.

The defending World Series champions had closed to within a game of first place in the NL Central before hitting the road and the skids. The latest loss dropped them 4½ games out.

Votto doubled home a pair of runs in the sixth off Kip Wells (6-17), and Ross followed with his first homer since July 23. The catcher had been 1-for-15 since returning from a concussion on Aug. 28.

Aaron Harang (15-4) gave up three hits and three sacrifice flies -- two by Albert Pujols -- in seven innings. David Weathers gave up an RBI single in the ninth before becoming the ninth Cincinnati closer to reach the 30-save mark.

It was the Cardinals' costliest trip of the season by far.

In addition to losing precious games in the standings, they lost third baseman Scott Rolen, who had shoulder surgery on Tuesday, and outfielder Chris Duncan, who aggravated a hernia and is likely out for the season.

Now, they're running out of time. They play four games against the Cubs this weekend in St. Louis and have three left in Milwaukee -- the two teams they're chasing.

The Cardinals faced the Reds' top two starters during the series -- just the way it worked out -- and didn't do much against either. They lost to Bronson Arroyo 7-2 on Wednesday night.

David Eckstein led off Thursday's game with a double and scored on a sacrifice and Pujols' sacrifice fly. That was the only hit the Cardinals managed off Harang in the first five innings.

The Reds wasted several chances against the enigmatic Wells, who lost seven straight games earlier this season and now has lost his last four starts. The Reds left the bases loaded in the third, when Edwin Encarnacion popped out.

They loaded the bases again in the fourth, but managed only Jeff Keppinger's sacrifice fly that tied it at 1. Votto's RBI double -- his third hit of the game -- broke the tie in the fifth, and Ross followed with his first homer in 53 at-bats.

Another sign of how things are going for St. Louis: It was only the third homer off Wells in the right-hander's last 71 innings.

Notes: Wells has given up 21 runs in 18 innings during his streak of four straight losses as a starter. ... Slumping OF Rick Ankiel was out of the Cardinals' lineup. He pinch-hit and went 0-for-2, leaving him in a 1-for-23 rut. ... Reds OF Josh Hamilton was out of the lineup with a strained right hamstring. SS Alex Gonzalez was out with a sore left knee. ... Weathers is 30-for-35 in save chances. He's the first Reds reliever to get 30 saves since Danny Graves in 2002. ... The Reds head to Milwaukee, where the Brewers will face starters Tom Shearn, Kirk Saarloos and Matte Belisle in a three-game series.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com ... -headlines

Dave
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4.5 back- they're dead birds. It seems that after the HGH news regarding Rick Ankiel came out they've crashed and burned.

sorianosthebest
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Let's hope so, they don't need to win every year. Last year they only won 83 and still won the series. Maybe we will get that lucky this year.

#1cubfan
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Ya, we only need 6 more wind to match that. We need 6 out the last 13 to do it. I think we will win 7 or 8 with our schedule.

Cin, then Pit, then Fla, then Cin again.

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09/20/2007 3:13 AM ET

Notes: Injury could end Pujols' season

Strained left calf has slugger doubtful for weekend series

By Daniel Berk / MLB.com

Albert Pujols says he has played this season at just 60-65 percent health. ST.LOUIS -- Unless Albert Pujols sees drastic improvement in his strained left calf in the next few days, his season could be over.

"I can't make that decision right now, it will be up to the trainers. ... But as of right now, no [I don't think I could play]," Pujols said. "Anything's possible, I guess. If I feel like I can play, I'll play.

"It's pretty bad. When I was warming up [Tuesday], during my first sprint, I felt a pop and just couldn't go."

Cards manager Tony La Russa and Pujols both said before Wednesday's game that Pujols was very doubtful for the weekend series against the Astros. After that series, Pujols will be re-evaluated. If it hasn't improved, he will then likely be shut down for the season.

Pujols said the calf was first aggravated last Saturday against the Cubs. Then, again on Monday, when he was running the bases, he felt a pop. He stayed in the lineup and played through it, but on Tuesday, when he felt another pop, it was enough.

After taking the field for his final stretches and sprints, he came back to the dugout and told La Russa that he had to be scratched from the lineup.

Pujols made a pinch-hitting appearance in the 13th inning, drawing a walk. He was immediately lifted for a pinch-runner, though. He started to jog to first base, but stopped and walked the rest of the way.

He said if he got a base hit, he probably wouldn't have been able to get to first base, and with a ball in the gap, he would have stopped at first base.

After the game, the former MVP needed crutches as he made his way to his car to leave the stadium after the Cards' 14-inning loss to the Phillies.

The slugger has battled a number of injuries this season, most notably a right hamstring problem. He said the trainers told him the calf injury could have been a product of running gingerly to protect the hamstring, but they weren't sure.

"I've been playing at about 60-65 percent all season," Pujols said. "It's been a disappointing year."

If Pujols has indeed played his last game of the season, it will end one of the more remarkable streaks in baseball. Pujols is the first player in Major League history to start his career with six straight 100 RBI seasons. Currently at 94, the All-Star isn't likely to make it.

"I've been proud of my numbers in the past because of our great teams," Pujols said. "What does 100 RBIs mean if we lost [all these] games? My only goal is to win as many World Series as possible."

Eck back, Edmonds out: Shortstop David Eckstein was back in the starting lineup for the first time this homestand. Eckstein missed the first five games with a sore lower back, and then pinch-hit on Tuesday, popping out.

Eckstein was not in La Russa's orginal starting lineup Wednesday, but after the manager checked in with the shortstop, he put him in there.

"He said he was good to go, so he's in there," La Russa said.

Center fielder Jim Edmonds remained out of the lineup with a sore groin. Edmonds missed Tuesday night's game, and was unavailable to pinch-hit, according to La Russa.

Edmonds said he didn't know how long he would be sidelined and he was feeling about the same as he did Tuesday.

La Russa linked to Seattle: Before Wednesday's game, La Russa was asked about a report published on Tuesday that said La Russa might leave the Cardinals to manage the Mariners next season.

"No reaction," La Russa said.

When asked if there was anything to the report, La Russa replied, "I don't think so."

La Russa said he hasn't discussed his future with Cards management yet, and is just focused on finishing the 2007 season strong.

Ryan apologizes: During Tuesday night's game, infielder Brendan Ryan was pulled from the game at the end of first inning after he swung at a 3-0 pitch.

La Russa said after Tuesday's game that that was unacceptable at the big league level. As Ryan was leaving the stadium early Wednesday morning, he ran into La Russa and apologized for his gaffe.

Before Wednesday's game, La Russa said it wasn't a big deal, and he was over it. Ryan was in the orginal starting lineup, but once Eckstein said he could play, La Russa made the switch.

"He made a mistake and it's over," La Russa said. "It was 3-0 and a take sign."

Kennedy visits: Injured second baseman Adam Kennedy was back in the Cardinals' clubhouse for the first time since early August.

Kennedy underwent surgery to repair a torn MCL and is out for the season. He came back to field ground balls before the game with the team and take some hacks in the batting cages.

"I already feel a lot better, and it's still getting stronger," Kennedy said.

Coming up: The Cards will open a four-game series with the Astros on Thursday. Braden Looper (12-10, 4.55 ERA) will start for the Cards, while the Astros will counter with lefty Wandy Rodriguez (8-13, 4.83 ERA). First pitch is set for 7:10 p.m. CT.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p;c_id=mlb

whtigers
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After all the stuff we have gone through with Prior and Wood, Lee being hurt last year and so many others, this really makes me happy that their fans are having to go through this this year. I do like to see their players hurt but the fans can bite it.


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